In this episode of Wisdom Dialogues, Hope Johnson shares inspiring insights on different questions and scenarios on recognizing our innermost feelings and healing them with others. Some of the topics discussed are:
What can we do about judgment and tolerance?
Why do we project a scenario just to get a feeling?
Does it make a difference whether I have an emotionally charged reaction rather than staying calm and connected?
How do we attack our bodies?
Why do we still have experience of body fat, death, being not enough, bad relationships and the like?
What is resisting the moment?
Question (Q): What happens when we feel upset? What can we do about judgment and tolerance?
The people around us are reflections of ourselves. So, when we feel upset, they are mirroring it, too. When we recognize that, we can take responsibility for the healing among ourselves and others. The cause of the upset feeling is undone when it is acknowledged other people didn’t do anything and it is just a projection.
So, thoughts of judgement and intolerance can just occur in our minds or projected from feeling. However, the reason we project is we think the thoughts are about us. It is as if we see these traits from others and think they must be ours. However, traits don’t belong to anyone. What is shown is we are buying into something about ourselves which we can give up.
Judgement occurring to us is a blessing because it gets undone when we are aware of it. We can stop believing in it and make another choice at any moment.
Scenario: My company had a personality workshop on who’s introverted and extroverted. However, I didn’t like the idea of being labeled into a personality type because I see myself in between. I felt like being labelled than being inclusive in the class. I started to recoil because I was getting mad and it made me think if it is just my perception or my energy. I didn’t feel excited like the others. What is it about? What am I projecting?
Basically, we are perceiving feelings, and everything else are interpretations of our emotions. We can’t come into contact with others unless there is potential for healing one another. We are sensing with other people and it is a healing opportunity in our minds that is not separate with the people we perceive.
Instead, we can look at the energy playing. What is taking place is an emotional journey between love and fear. Feelings based on fear are hatred, greed, irritation and so on which we can heal with others anytime.
Furthermore, we can see concepts containing people into this or that as fun and entertaining. However, getting angry at it signifies it is being taken as real or maybe, threatening. Normally, when we feel upset, there is a sense of threat. It is the underlying belief keeping the whole world of separation going. The reason we have to run into a make-believe world is to escape the threat.
So, when we get a sense of irritation, we can be open to see what’s causing it. We need to be willing to surrender to the feeling. It is like we are dismissing the messenger by just feeling the feeling and knowing we projected the entire scenario to get the feeling.
Q: Why do we project a scenario just to get a feeling?
It because of what it is for. When the feeling arises, it gives the opportunity for healing it. It is like a miracle because it changes the way we look at the world and who we are. An upset feeling makes us take ourselves as small. However, it an opportunity for us to recognize it and the thoughts we are holding against ourselves. It is an illusion for undoing the guilty self-concept.
Rather, we are on a feeling-ride. Whatever feeling is coming up for us, other people are getting it equally. When we are in projecting mode with other people, they are also sensing it. So, we can withdraw from such energy by allowing ourselves to getting the feeling as it is.
Q: Does it make a difference whether I have an emotionally charged reaction rather than staying calm and connected?
It is all for learning so, however we react, let it occur. So, for example, when our minds are calm, we will stay calm and have the perception of it, too.
The way we react on the surface, to our emotion is not our choice. How we see our reaction is where we have a choice. It means, we remember we are on an energy ride, nothing is happening, we have dominion over our thoughts and we are not a victim of anything.
Q: How do we attack our bodies?
When we find ourselves in a body, we make it seem real. When we see we don’t have a choice on the surface then, we can use all our perceptions for healing. However, when misperceiving is permitted, basically, it is like an attack in the body.
The thoughts we believe make our bodies into something it is not. They are the cause for the body appearing at all and for it to get sick, old, weak or pass away. Nothing or nobody wears us out, only our belief in our thoughts.
When we want to see sickness to heal quickly, we can admit from moment to moment that it is only coming from our minds and we have complete dominion over it. Once the body is being perceived ill, it is all mental commentary more than taking a certain medication for recovery. When we have a hopeful thought and believe in it, we are making the body real and setting it up for sickness. Perceptionaly, it can’t have any sickness at all.
Comment: God is too pure to behold inequity. If we are innocent and pure, we see it wherever we go. Whatever is within we is what we are seeing outside as well.
Whenever we see something as not innocent, we can embrace the feeling within ourselves. It is a matter of getting the feeling of it and knowing we have dominion over it. We are given the power to see through it, and it is how it gets real forgiveness.
Scenario: I experience bloating in my belly some nights. How do I make the painful bloating go away?
The question is coming from an angle which is not helpful because it is focusing on the physical symptom as if it is not a gift. Any physical symptom is a gift of awareness. So, what we want is recovery if we take the bloating as something we want to go away. We can take the mind’s magic trick for it.
If we really want to get to the core of how we perceive bloating, we won’t really care about it because it is not really happening. The bloating is a symbol to let us see what is for. So, all we have to do is look to our feeling and recognize we are making it up.
Q: Why do we still have experience of body fat, death, being not enough, bad relationships and the like?
We have such experiences so we can see through them. We are not given more than we can handle because we can see through. We know they don’t have any power to affect us. We can just get the feeling from them and let them all pass.
Q: What is resisting the moment?
Resisting the moment is a habit pattern. Our special relationships are set-up for resisting and we can watch it. It is a gift. It is symbolizes what thoughts we believe in. When it arises in us, we can embrace it and we can feel good from it.
We interact with one another to see where our resistance is and we heal it together. Calmness comes from the willingness to embrace it. Naturally, we are calm and in reality, there is no resistance. We are just making it up. It is symbolic of the guilty thought we are separate. We don’t even need to think we need something. It only makes us dependent which we don’t have to. We can just recognize and embrace our feelings of resistance.
In this episode of Wisdom Dialogues, Hope Johnson and her panelists discuss about recognizing the guilt behind our projections. Hope encourages us to always notice our reactions when something comes up like disrespectful behaviors. Watch along this interactive episode and glean more insights on the following topics:
What relaxation and breathing can do?
What can we do when we have an anxiety attack?
Our negative feelings can’t affect us but is joy an effect?
How can we heal projections of disrespect?
What can be done when perceiving someone’s innocence is lost?
What’s not the ego story?
How can we eliminate money?
What relaxation and breathing can do?
We can love our fearful feelings because underneath it is excitement and fun. We are just buying into the thought that we are afraid. Fear is excitement without the breath. As we notice how we are breathing at the moment, we will also notice we are letting more love in. Breath is love, symbolically.
We can engage in a breathing technique that works for us. We can be aware of how and what the breath is. It can relax on its own through focusing on the senses, its sound and where the breath passes without any judgement.
We can choose whatever is appropriate for us because we can’t do anything wrong. The big ego fear is surrendering. Being watchful requires a kind of surrender in trying to take responsibility for our own life. When we surrender, we will be guided for whatever comes. So, we can just watch and see what is keeping us from enjoying. We can simply relax and laugh.
What can we do when we have an anxiety attack?
Our anxious attacks (heart beating faster, body feels warmer, agitation and shallow breathing) are all manifestations of our thoughts. It is us choosing to follow them. There is no cause outside ourselves for anxiousness, confusion and questions unless we follow the thoughts modifying ourselves away from who we are. We have to be willing to see we are buying into them.
It is like a performance. We put thoughts like they are costumes and become this or that. It means, we always have complete dominion over them. We can be our light but we tend to choose the image we painted ourselves.
The ego-victim thoughts are not true. Our experiences are just going to us so, no one’s doing anything. When we feel we are not choosing our spirit voice, it is the ego-victim thought we are believing.
Our negative feelings can’t affect us but is joy an effect?
Joy is the pure expression. It is not coming from illusion. It is not fleeting happiness but an inner joy springing from a well underneath the surface of our illusions and projections. It is like our cue to stay on purpose. So, when there are moments of depression, they can rise and pass. We can sit still, watch the sensations unfold and recognize we don’t belong to them. We can walk through them in a healing way. When depression goes to a higher intensity, we can sink back to much more joy. We can acknowledge it as a blessing as if something beautiful is coming from it.
How can we heal projections of disrespect?
When another person seems to show disrespect towards us, our resistance to the behavior is our resistance to our inner child. Kids are not doing anything if we think they are disrespecting us. They are only revealing to us what we need to know about ourselves, what we keep hidden.
When we are alert, we can seize the opportunity by watching our reactions. Feeling disrespected is us getting rid of our guilt by making others feel guilty. It is like a murderous game. We are guilty for believing we are separated from the Source. We all have such guilt and our thoughts and actions are extrapolations from it.
When someone disrespects us, notice the reaction arising from within. It is not a matter how we should behave but a matter of recognizing our reactions and loving them. We are healing what’s causing us to feel guilty which makes us kind. Whatever form of disrespect we seem to get, allow compassion for the reaction, watch the feeling, remember what’s true and make a choice for love.
We will know we are mistaken when we feel bad but no one is disrespecting us. It is only the ego wanting to fight back what we see outside ourselves. It will attack on other people’s innocence to regain ours. So, when we feel upset with people’s disrespectful behavior, we can choose what we can give them – will we poke them with a hot stick or give them a safe place in our hearts?
The sinister guarantee in projections is we are getting every bit of the punishment we want others to have through feelings of suffering, depression and confusion. However, we can repent it right now because they don’t have power over us. They don’t have creative power for our future, too. As soon as we recognize our projections, healing can immediately happen. The forgiveness feels like nothing happened. When we accept the gift of healing, it is done.
What can be done when perceiving someone’s innocence is lost?
The person whom we believe is losing innocence is us. We are sensing our own innocence has been lost. We are using our perception as if we can get our innocence back by making the person as the one who has lost it. It is like a self-reflection.
When we understand it, we don’t have to buy the idea that others are being brainwashed. We are making it up so that we can unload some guilt. However, we are just projecting and there is nothing to unload.
If we need to help in such situation, it will be presented to us and we will just know it.
What’s not the ego story?
The ego’s story is perceptions are going to stay. It can become repetitive and generates hate feelings over and over but it is a great opportunity to see such patterns. It is hard to see at the moment because of our defenses which keep us in conflict with other people. The underlying mechanism of the ego is a projection that someone has to lose to get our innocence back. We can undo it by recognizing there’s no gain from other people’s loss.
We can feel out whatever is arising in us and allow ourselves to be excited and thankful for the opportunity it gives. So, when we have thoughts like, “My son hates me,” it is not true because there is only love.
How can we eliminate money?
The thought there is something we need to eliminate gives value to the object. If it is money, then we are making money real. However, the world is just our reflection. When we lose the idea to try to improve it, we start to see the authenticity of our reflections. We will not seek to get rid of anything.
Money seems to be meaningful when it is not. It is only a manifestation of the mind. However, it can be opportunity to watch our thoughts, where they attack and can get back to us as a form of healing. When we start to see truth, we can recognize there is no guilt, money nor air. No matter what is there in the surface is not a problem. All are just equal.
It is all an energy play. The physical reality is a make-believe. All of us – beings, objects, concepts – are just one thing and for one thing.
Hope Johnson gives an in-depth discussion on what is ‘getting the feeling effect’. She shares her wisdom on what it means by all of us are energies playing. With panelists, Laurie Thiboutot, Bob Shine and later, Julia Shevchenko, Hope expounds more on seeing everyone through the eyes of the spirit.
Glean wisdom on the following topics from the episode:
The common guilty – trip of the ego
Getting the feeling effect of guilty thoughts
Laughter is the answer
Live free in the moment
See those projections
Together for eternity
The common guilty – trip of the ego
We tend to compare ourselves with other people and question why they are, ‘getting it’ while we don’t. Thinking this way is one of the ego’s guilty – trip. When we see others ‘getting it’, we are not seeing them clearly. Truthfully, they have ‘gotten it’ just like we do.
Feelings stemming from guilt are fear, jealousy, and being upset and undeserving. Guilt makes us believe we are only deserving of punishment through manifestations of being separated from the One Source.
Getting the feeling effect of guilty thoughts
The actions we see from other people are messages telling us what our feelings look like. Getting the feeling effect is allowing those feelings, and acting on them is not caring about them.
What really happens is an energy exchange and getting the feeling calms down energies. We can stay still and allow the feeling to come and go. Then, we become clearer for not going with it.
We need to get the feeling to know what we are projecting. When we recognize we are projecting, we return to who we are and everything shifts. It is like seeing the future. When we are simply riding the feeling, we are riding the future with it. When we start to see that, we become less motivated to write a story with such feeling. Instead, we let the story be written, and it will turn into a love story because then, we are only demonstrating to everyone they are innocent, no one can do wrong, and there is no good and bad. When we demonstrate innocence in our minds, we allow more joy and lightness until we get to see a world without separation. It can occur when everyone is looked through the eyes of the spirit.
Laughter is the answer
What we only want are truth, peace, harmony and comfort of the reality of who we are. The rest are just thoughts. They are manifesting from moment to moment and each can be used for healing.
Healing happens when we watch the thoughts play out and we choose to laugh at them. Furthermore, laughing at our perceptions brings out compassion from within. We can give ourselves a good chuckle on the ‘could’a/should’a/would’a’ for trying to get us hooked on a bad feeling.
We can allow ourselves to sink into the joy or bliss that we are at any instant or moment. If we are not able to laugh at our thoughts, it’s as if they own us. However, doing something gets easier once we get to laugh. We simply work or do activities without obliging or berating ourselves. Missing a day, week or month can be something we care less about. So, let the thoughts pass and find joy with whatever we are doing.
If we don’t allow ourselves to get released from concepts of debt, we are allowing more illusions of misery and guilt. To get released is saying, “I’m making this up so I can get this feeling.” It takes attention over time to get used to it.
Attention is taking whatever upset feeling arises and using it for forgiveness. It is admitting, “I am making this up for this feeling.” By doing so, we can see through the feeling and not have ideas about trying to make things happen to ourselves. We can only recognize things are happening for us.
Live free in the moment
The world is for demonstrating in our minds we are free. So, live free in the moment without projections. The projections are for resurrection, for more bliss. Bliss is the reality of who we are. The reason it can’t be seen is because there is preference for seeing something else, for making worldly illusions true.
Believing in illusions is like giving faith to the thoughts crossing in our minds. However, thoughts can come and go and shift in an instant. So, it is okay to admit, “I would rather see this than the truth,” because the thought is just for a moment. We can call it out anytime and we can do so for as long as we want because at any moment too, thoughts can change.
See those projections
Perceptions can shift so fast. So, we can choose what’s true in the midst of perceiving concepts that are manifesting. When we get the feeling effect, our actions are taken care of. All we have to do is realize our projections then, what’s meant will take place. The only choices we have is to project or allow healing.
Together for eternity
Existence is not the existence we believe as stoppable by death. We are never separate from our loved ones for eternity. The idea of them being vulnerable to time, aging, death, illness, accidents, sadness, and seeing them the way we do are the ones not existing.
So, when we feel sad about the idea of the existence of our loved ones, we can get the feeling effect of the sadness and see through it. It is for us to recognize the people close to us have not and will never change. Their reality is always protected.
In this episode on Wisdom Dialogues, Hope Johnson, Laurie Thiboutot and Bob Shine hold an in-depth conversation on our real purpose which is to expand love and joy.
Glean some wisdom on the following topics:
What happens when we uplift the veil?
What are we going to see that’s real?
What are we?
What is the meaning of, “It is all one thing,”?
What are sadness and bliss?
Is there a healing for the body?
What happens when we uplift the veil?
When we uplift the veil, we will see that it is all and for one thing. All the fluctuations we perceive are nothing and just for our entertainment. Though we are struggling to understand it and many people make such choice, healing can still happen when we acknowledge that we are struggling.
We can recognize who we are, make a choice and see everything is nothing. Then, there is no problem at all. When we see everything is one thing, whatever happens is cool, appropriate and awesome.
What are we going to see that’s real?
It not like seeing through our body’s eyes. We see true perception through an inner eye. Whatever is coming to us, we see it is for a guilty self-concept and it is not real. We are just projecting how we wish to see ourselves in our minds.
The way we perceive is through the body-sense. So, it appears we are in a body and we are responsible for our bodies and things that happen in the world. However, in reality, nothing is happening but a play of energies.
What are we?
Everyone has a spark of the Divine. We have a tiny light inside but it can get shrouded by holding onto judgement. When we agree to judgement, it seems we are laying out our future by setting out circumstances that bring out the same feelings forward. We are living like it is an emotional journey. It is the feeling that keeps going forward.
We are made for expanding joy. Symbolically, God made us for His pleasure which can mean, God made us to experience joy through us. We make ourselves joyful through making a choice for reality. When we realize that, we will see it is all and for one thing and the purpose is for expanding joy.
We have an inner smile behind whatever is occurring to us. The little light can be expanded for who we are. However, we are more accepting of the thoughts occurring in our life now which we are all making up. It is like a drama show.
It is all about the natural flow of life so, nothing can hurt us. We just believe in worldly thoughts that we can get hurt, insane, worried and so on. Furthermore, one of the ego’s game is our perceptions will come true. However, we can make a choice and see bliss and liberation instead. In reality, we have no idea what’s going to occur because it will all just play out.
What is the meaning of, “It is all one thing,”?
Nothing separate is happening. It is all just a hologram occurring to us, out of our projection, for us to perceive what we believe.
When we get a charge, our beliefs are revealed and they can get undone. Then, our life becomes an undoing of the guilty self-concept. In that, we are being uplifted and we can get more joy and expand it, too. We can’t also get a perception that someone is doing something to us. So, nothing is happening.
We need to get the feeling, let it be, and believe we are just making everything up until we see and feel empowered.
What are sadness and bliss?
Sadness needs a story, a hook and belief in the feeling. It means we are believing what is untrue and we are acting it out like a drama show. However, it is okay to feel sad because it is still an opportunity.
Meanwhile, our joy helps everyone, it is not selfish. When we see that we are uplifted in joy, it changes the whole vibe of everything. Beneath the thin layer of perception, what we have is bliss. When we see that there’s nothing in our perceptions, we can get an overwhelming bliss. Then, whatever bad that is happening, we can accept it like we are making it up for the blessing.
Thus, we need to refuse to buy into our thoughts and deny the evidence.
Is there a healing for the body?
There is no healing for the body, the body is unhealed at the first place. It is the mind that needs healing. The body sense is just a symbol for a diseased mind. When we are focused on healing for the body, we are not getting to the underlying cause.
The disease to be healed is the sense of upset, not supported by the spirit, and we’re not for expanding joy. There is no limit to healing especially when we recognize it is all for one thing and we are expanding joy in whatever is being perceived. So, we can delete all the problems we perceive in the world.
The only reality is love. We can make a choice for reality just by loving and whatever there is, we can say, “Thank You!”
Do you believe you don’t lack money at all? In this episode of Wisdom Dialogues, Hope Johnson with panelists, Laurie Thibuotot and Bob Shine, share with us insights on why there is no such thing as a lack of money. They enlighten us where the feelings of scarcity come from and how we can face it.
This episode particularly blesses us wisdom on:
Is lack of money real?
How does scarcity consciousness relate to children?
How can we keep children from eating the food?
Will saying, “Yes,” all the time spoil children?
If family members behave in an aggressive or cruel way, are they innocent? When I react to their energy, am I still innocent?
Is there really a lack of money?
Believing that we lack money is a projected feeling. We use money to project guilt onto ourselves and other people. We perceive it as if we don’t have enough. Money, just like other concepts, doesn’t mean anything. It gets its value because we are trying to uphold the projected feeling as a defense of love. We are afraid to surrender or submit. Wanting money comes from built-up fear that makes us stay in the world.
When we continue to identify with the thought of money or any idea, the intensity gets stronger. However, when we don’t identify, the intensity lessens until the thought is nothing. What it will leave behind is a sense of calmly joy.
We can say that having intense feelings means believing something is true. It is also intense because we keep following the pattern and the fear factor ramps up. However, it is up to us to go through it without identifying with the ego play which is telling us that fear or lack is real so we need to save ourselves. The moment we validate the thoughts the ego convinces us, it distracts the underlying cause which is a belief about ourselves.
We can see money in a different way by recognizing what energy is being offered or exchanged. We can think about it as a gift for love. So, Hope encourages us to watch the feeling that arises when we think about money. We just need to stop and watch where our energy is going with it. It is an inner knowing or realization. Our responsibility is to ask ourselves, “What is the energy exchange? How am I using this? How am I using it to attack myself?”
Once we know it and we are in it, then we can laugh and see how silly our thoughts or perceptions are. Hope reminds us that everything is a teaching-learning experience including the rush or intense feelings we get from something. When we keep believing a guilty thought, it becomes serious. When we don’t believe it, we will realize it is just joke, a laughing matter.
How does scarcity-consciousness relate to children?
Hope answers that it is a common misperception that kids can steal. ‘Stealing’ happens when a person, whether kid or adult, feels an extreme sense of lack. However, she reminds us that no one can steal anything. All of us are like children, always innocent.
However, we can look at lack or scarcity as a gift and we will start to see how we are making all of it up. It is projected so we can feel guilt. It leads us to uphold the world, hold on to it and be defensive about it.
What we can do to stop the perception of stealing is to undo this guilty self-concept. In our heart is a recognition where the perception is coming from. If we don’t know, we can ask within.
How can we keep kids from eating the food?
Hope suggests that instead of telling children, “There is no food,” or “This food is only mine”, we can ask them how they feel about it instead. We can say, “This food is mine. Would you please not eat it?”, “Would you be willing for it to be mine tonight?” or “Would you please eat something else instead of this?” This way there is no sense of scarcity. However children react to our asking is a teaching-learning experience for everyone.
Will saying, “Yes,” all the time spoil children?
Hope tells us that we spoil kids thru our energy. Saying “Yes,” doesn’t come from love and compassion when our intention is for them to leave us alone. Spoiling is never an extension of love. It comes from wanting the kids to find gratification through objects rather than getting it directly from us. Hope explains that this can happen because in parents’ minds, they feel fearful of punishment and they are concerned because there is not enough. Parents don’t know how abundant they are.
Hope reminds us to always see it is a dance. The parent and the child are equally in the dance. Whoever has the capacity for more wisdom or for extending love, has more responsibility in that. When there is ignorance, some don’t know they can make a choice. It is a matter of understanding one’s feeling given a situation.
If family members behave in an aggressive or cruel way, are they innocent? When I react to their energy am I still innocent?
Hope answers that if we are the ones who know there is a choice, yes, we have dominion and responsibility. No one is going to help us in our responsibility because it is only for us. It is up to us to choose between love or fear, heaven or hell, comfort or guilt. It is our responsibility alone to make a choice because we have our own creative power. However, in this environment, there seems for us to have a choice because we have constantly chosen guilt.
When we realize that we are believing a guilty self-concept, we go back to the reality which is to choose truth or innocence. All of us are innocent. What’s important is recognizing what perceptions we believe are reality and changing how we see things.
Being around people is like parenting ourselves because we don’t fully know who we are. So, Hope and her panelists, Laurie Thiboutot, Bob Shine (and later, with Yulia Shevchenko and Alana Saab) demonstrate to us that we are divine.
In this episode of Wisdom Dialogues, receive insights on the following:
Seeing an alternative to disciplining children
Undoing the habit of children attention-seeking behaviors
Communicating to children how to flourish in a world full of freedom and choice.
Overcoming a child’s lack of self-confidence
There are parents who can’t see freedom to see the love for themselves and can’t help but put restrictions on their children for their bad behavior. They discipline or punish their kids to teach them a lesson.
Hope explains that it is a parents’ demonstration that they are unworthy of love which is projected to their kids. We can feel if we want to discipline, punish or teach someone a lesson by watching. It is not about not giving punishments at all or negating what we practice at home but to help us see how our energy plays out.
Hope encourages us to watch our feelings and find out how we feel about our children’s behavior. By doing so, we will see if our words or actions are coming from love and acceptance or trying to manipulate something.
Sometimes, children unwittingly annoy others to put restrictions on them.
When this happens, Hope says to notice how the children’s energy is used and not get into it with them. What makes such behavior a problem is feeling that it is wrong. We may or may not find what we need to say about it. When we believe it is up to us what, how and when to say something, we have lost connection with our spirit. There is nothing for us to do and we don’t have responsibility in the world because it is all being done for us. It is playing thru the body sense that will allow love and compassion to play out. It is all about energy being made manifest which is also a thought.
The habit of children annoying others for attention can be undone.
Hope shares that to undo such conditioning is to demonstrate that the behavior is nothing to us. It is not being stoic and not doing anything about it but, it is recognizing that we make it a problem. Projecting to our children that their behavior is a big deal is the ego convincing us. However, the spirt voice tells us that everyone has an innocent mind.
Nothing is wrong but the ego pops out thoughts in our minds that says we screwed up, we made a mistake or we are in trouble. However, when we see through our third eye how our energy plays, we realize we are just making these thoughts up. So, we need to just keep feeling and practice getting the feeling-effect.
Q: I have an 8 year-old son and I have not yet figured out how to communicate with him to allow him to flourish in a world full of freedom and choice.
Hope answers that we don’t have to know how to communicate. We need to admit that we don’t know how to. Real communication is receiving the love of God but people are scared to lose closeness to others. However, we feel closer to them by appreciating their uniqueness. The only way we get connected with one another is thru our spirit. To be connected thru our spirit is to admit when something seems wrong, we are just making it up. Then, we get the feeling effect and realize it is not reality. Through this, things arise and pass very quickly.
Q: I realize how much my words impacted my kids and it is hard. My son held on to my negative words and now, lacks self-confidence.
When we believe that it is hard, it seems like something went wrong. In reality, nothing happened. When we think our kids are this or that way because of us, we give credence to the ego. We say it is hard because we project the past into the present. Being in the now means we are recognizing that we are making our guilty, upset or fearful thoughts up.
The perceived lack of confidence is a perceived error and our kids perceive it in theirselves too. When we say what occurred before can have a real effect just makes it real. It is better not to buy into this belief by willingly see that nothing happened.
Hope reminds us to let things unfold naturally. We can relax by admitting we don’t know what’s going on. Thinking that we know only comes the feeling of pressure and being a victim. It is up to us to let our energy play out and allow the natural flow of things. When the ego also continues with the thoughts it convinces us then, we just laugh about it.
When we see the truth, thoughts about our past and projections of the future do not pain us like they used to. Once our perceptions shift and we start recognizing that we have the choice to listen to our spirit voice, we feel comfort and safety. When we come to this realization, it is like glass shattering into pieces to an enlightenment.
In this week’s episode, Hope Johnson talks about releasing the physical tension brought by the mind, complex concepts on spirituality, perceptions on ourselves and relationships, and the meaning of a free mind. With panelists Lorry Thiboutot and Bob Shine, catch wisdom on the following:
How Lorry can overcome her current fearful feelings
How Bob can undo his mind from complex concepts
How to trust your partner
What is denying the evidence
How to be free in the mind
What happens when there is undoing and no guilt in the mind
Update on Lorry’s current feelings and thoughts
Lorry gives an update about her current thought-process. She notices a pattern where upon waking up, she is fearful about her future which she feels in her solar plexus. Then, it decreases as the day goes on as she is busy. She feels pain from all the thoughts she is having. Now, she has compassion for the people who went thru the same circumstance.
Hope agrees that people create distractions for them to escape the pain they are feeling. She encourages Lorry to take a step back and just watch the fearful Lorry. She will realize that the fearful-self projection doesn’t have an effect on her. It is just that the illusion shows it is reality because Lorry may be identifying with it. Once she is aware of herself and what the manifestation can do, it doesn’t appeal anymore.
Hope also reassures Lorry that it is alright if now, she can’t get back to the way she was. It is still a benefit, the blessing is coming and she can always ask for help. She has two choices on how to seek help – to change the illusion which brings more pain or see who she truly is that will take her back to her core.
Lorry doesn’t have to put any time limit for the healing. She just needs the Holy Spirit to let it unfold as it knows how to use its own time. Hope encourages her to stay in the asking or question with no judgment or her own answers until she is clear about it and shares the perceptions of the Holy spirit. When it happens, she will not have any questions anymore.
Staying in the question means, “I am not making my own conclusion about this or not leaning to my own understanding in this limited mind just because I am upset or fearful. (H.J., 2019)”
Hope continues to reassures Lorry that all feelings will pass. When someone gets a grip of reality and looks for different ways where fear comes up, the ego is getting undone and becomes big. It is a major change and opportunity for Lorry to take in step-by-step.
When Lorry recognizes that it is all ego-play, her upset feelings will lighten. Whenever the projections disturb her, she just needs to take a step back from the temptation of making them meaningful for her. Through that, she can receive all the power and glory of who she is.
When the mind is gripping with illusions, the body tenses up. It is helpful to let the body rest by taking deep breaths and watching where the tension is until it gets released. When thoughts come in, the tension happens again. All tension comes from the mind.
Lastly, Hope encourages Lorry to just let her body rest from all the tension to get its healing. She says, “Resting the body is resting the mind. (H.J., 2019)”
Bob Shine’s shares about complex concepts of heaven and spirituality
Hope answers that these complexities is for him not to see the present. What is important is how the concepts are used. If it allows him to see through the guilty self-concept and offer up the hurt, wounded or upset feeling then, it is a benefit.
His mind longs for who he is and it is better to let the feeling guide him back to it. Words are meaningless because it is all about energy. If he sees what’s upsetting him, it is where healing takes place.
Q: I have perceptions that men are not all the same and I am beginning to trust that there is a conscious relationship. Men love to be monogamous and show it thru their energy. I am now in a relationship and have perceptions of jealousy and insecurity. It is difficult to trust my partner especially when he clarifies that my perceptions of him looking at other women are different from what he perceives. I just want to stop being distrustful.
Hope says that the trust in this situation is misplaced because there is an attachment to a sole person. However, this is an attachment to the person’s perception of her partner being in a certain way. Her wanting for her partner to be monogamous makes her see the world as opposite to it.
Hope explains that there is nothing that says we need people to be a certain way. We are getting what we want to see.
She adds that there is no physical relationship that will give contentment. There is only one relationship which is with the spirit where real satisfaction or contentment comes from.
Q: Can you give a situation about denying evidence? If your partner sleeps with anybody, are you supposed to act like it is okay?
Hope answers that it is taking things in a materialistic way when we are not supposed to act anything. She clarifies that denying the evidence means we are denying how the perception affects us. Denying the evidence is denying that the illusion is causing us any pain.
It is not about manipulating the illusion. We simply need to watch our mind as people do what they want.
She assures that if we are aware of who we are, there is no need to deny the perception at all. We are able to handle things in the illusion because we have the dominion over it.
She explains that we need to take whatever we are feeling rather than suppressing whatever makes us uncomfortable like if our partner is checking or sleeping with other people.
We need to let our feelings play out. In that way, we are able to support the innocent manifestation. It is allowed to be loved, appreciated and accepted. If there is a perception about cheating and there is difficulty accepting it, we will find ourselves taking care about the feeling and we will know what to say.
We don’t need to put ourselves in something fearful. We simply follow our good guidance and be natural about our words and actions.
Hope Johnson adds, “Watch how much you will be supported when you are willing for your spirit to uplift or guide you. Watch how the spirit will put you in high regard when you are willing to put it in high regard. (H.J., 2019)”
Q: Am I able to tap to other’s energy and true intentions?
Hope answers that it is not about other’s energy and true intention but ours. If we have an intention to make ourselves small when we are dependent on someone’s treatment on us, it is going to be reflected to us that other people have wrong intentions.
Truth is, no one’s doing anything. Our perceptions are symbolic on how we regard our spirit. How we respond is how we regard it.
Q: I just want to be in a relationship where I want to be worthy and my man’s intention is only with me.
Hope says that there’s wanting manifested. It is a symbol of wanting to be who we are. Let people have the intentions they want. It has nothing to do with us. We are being drawn to them so we can recognize we are worthy of so much more. If it doesn’t work then, it doesn’t. It is just a matter of what works for us.
Q: If it is more money you want, it is poverty you are seeking. You can’t want more money when you are not projecting you are lacking.
Hope says that, “Trying to change the feeling to get more money will never work. The striving is coming from feeling of lack. Any appearance of abundance attained this way, will make the opposite of it. (H.J., 2019)”
Wanting is like a block to who we truly are. It is making ourselves into illusions of being lacking. When we realize what we want is reality, we won’t desire anything. The apparent wanting is just a symbol of wanting to be who we are.
Q: For the one who is free, there is no fear of the mind. How can we be free in the mind?
Hope says we are already free. Freeing the mind is letting the upset feeling rise, recognizing it and not pursuing the thoughts it plays out.
We need to take one step back, let the pursuit continue and burn out on its own. The good guide in the mind will show us what we are holding against ourselves. Our willingness to get the feeling will make us automatically see its release. If we do this over and over again, we will know we are not guilty and it is all energy-game.
The choice is seeing and seeing is releasing. The reason for not releasing is the avoidance of not seeing. The more willing we are to praise our spirit, our spirit will move us to take care of our self/body.
Q: What happens when there is undoing, no guilt in the mind? Does the body just die?
Hope explains that there is no body. When we find ourselves in reality, we will realize no one’s missing. We don’t have to be concerned about our loved ones making it. She say, “It is not like anyone’s going to be left here because here doesn’t exist. (H.J., 2019)”
She adds that we don’t need to be afraid of undoing the illusion. As illusion is getting undone, the dream’s going to work until it doesn’t. So, we just take it easy because all are going as they are.
In conclusion, she encourages us not to let the guilt creep up on us because we can’t get it wrong. All is going exactly as they need to be.
In this week’s episode of Wisdom Dialogues, Hope Johnson shares insight on projections, communication thru energy, and illusions as blocks to our flow. With guest panelist, Lorry Thiboutot. Receive wisdom on the following:
How did Lorry relieve her stress?
If food doesn’t affect our body, is it okay to eat an Orbeez?
How do you know you have the energy?
My husband feels like he is stuck and depressed. Is it a reflection of myself on how husband feels? How do I deal with that?
How do we avoid conflict?
How far do you go in having fun and living it up? Is it okay to do drugs, drink alcohol and such activities?
How does a person make that transformation?
What feelings do you have? How do you go through your day? Do you think about your vibration?
What is truth?
What if I feel unsafe to trust the wisdom of the person?
How do I approach the pain?
Lorry’s Relief from Her Stressors
Lorry shares that she was going thru a hell of a week. She’s about to leave her abode and she was bombarded with fearful thoughts of losing her house, a sense of safety and the future. She never felt such fear where her stomach and legs tightened. It was getting worse day by day until she talked to Hope Johnson.
Hope Johnson consoles Lorry by saying she needed to go through all that to be knocked down and realize that it is the ego’s idea to sacrifice as if there’s truly something needed to be sacrificed. She adds that the divine doesn’t know the illusion Lorry makes in her mind. She is not receiving information from the divine because she chooses not to but instead, chooses to listen to the fearful thoughts generated by the ego. However, she reassures that everything is alright because it is all coming together. It is all a blessing.
Lorry shares that it is good to be back to her center. At first, it didn’t feel like a blessing. She didn’t have an appetite for the past few days. Hope answers that Lorry’s feelings were a symbol of excitement that she identified them as fear. Despite that, it is an opportunity to extend and express more love. Once the intense experience is released, all she will experience is a relief.
Lorry agrees that it was an unbelievable sense of relief. Her experience made her understand when people with depression run for medicine. Now, she has compassion for them.
Hope explains that what people go thru are projections. However, deep within those illusions is innocence. They can lead to a miracle of healing. We can choose to let go of them anytime, choose the truth and allow ourselves to be released from them. However, when we think we don’t have a choice but only those projections, then, we become victims of our thoughts. We will only wait for good news to be in a good mood.
Hope also adds that the ego shows us that once we screw up, other things get screwed up, too. We need to recognize that it is a red flag. To get out of the rabbit hole of the ego, we need to realize that there is no right and wrong. (10:43-11:03) Once we understand our feelings, there is forgiveness like nothing happened. When we get relief from our fearful mode, there is so much love in the end. It is important for us to realize that we have the option to return to our core anytime no matter how far our ego makes us think. Our ego-thinking has no effects and we are completely forgiven by it.
Hope is not here to advise what we should or should not do. It is irrelevant because we don’t have a choice in those. She explains further that actions are symbolic of one’s thinking. For example, we have a perception of putting someone in danger that is our thought giving us an illusion. We need to defy such thinking. We will know thru reactions when we are projecting.
Q: If food doesn’t affect our body, is it okay to eat an Orbeez?
Gabriela, a listener, recounts a situation at home where her four-year-old son was playing with Orbeez. She told her son that there is no such thing as good or bad food, nothing outside doesn’t affect the body. Her son, then, asked her if it is okay to eat an Orbeez. Hope answers Gabriela that it is unnecessary to teach a kid anything. There is no need to pretend that she can teach him something. What she says or does to another person is teaching her mind instead.
Then, Gabriela shares that her boyfriend went mad when she told her son it is okay to eat an Orbeez, creating a huge argument between them.
Hope explains that Gabriela didn’t do anything wrong. Believing so is the effect of the ego who wants to make conflict. What matters is getting a feeling reaction in the body. The fearful reaction is the temptation of the ego. Instead of taking care of the feeling, Gabriela spoke and said, “Sure.” She reminds us that nothing we say is true. Instead, we communicate thru energy. “Sure” can be an extension of love. However, Gabriela’s ‘sure’ could have been a projection. She would know it is a projection thru her boyfriend’s reaction.
Hope says, “The ego will take on any kind of spiritual concept to make conflict. In Buddhism, when a concept is new, it needs to be protected like a baby plant. (H.J. 2019)” The world is made up, it has a lot of manifestation and full of the ego and these are the bugs surrounding the baby plant. When a concept is not yet nurtured, it needs to be loved up and taken care of.
The illusory world is based on the denial of who you are. We just need to take care of the fear. We will know we are fearful thru other people’s reactions. If they are scared, it reflects your feeling. Remember, the ego does not have full power over us. It is just our perception that it does.
It is not about communicating thru words but communicating thru energy. When we are communicating love, no one will eat Orbeez and the body is completely protected.
Q: How do you know you have the energy?
Hope answers that we are always communicating with energy. Our words are meaningless. (35:07 – 35: 19) “What’s being communicated is love, other than that is projection making more illusions. (H.J., 2019)” We will know we are projecting illusions when we are fearful.
Most people do not know how to tune in with their energy. We will recognize our energy when we get the feeling effect. As words come out when we speak, we need to watch and feel our body’s energy. When there’s fear, our solar plexus area constricts. The solar plexus is between the navel and the breastbone. It has a lot of nerves. It is an energy center of the body.
It is between a sense of openness and receiving divine information and a closed-off sense. Our function is to remove the blocks in our feelings. When we sense something, get the feeling effect first. So that energy is cleared of it.
Q: My husband feels like he is stuck and depressed. Is it a reflection of myself on how husband feels? How do I deal with that?
Hope answers Stacey by saying there’s a lot of fear going on there. She will know it through reaction. So, she needs to allow energy to play and herself to feel the effects. The first manifestation is the words she says. It will help her to think about what it feels like. If she allows the sensation, it will reveal the truth and she will get guidance to get to love. She will be made to speak and extend love and calm the situation. However, when something is going fast, the mind will say she needs to say something but there is no need to put herself in conflict. Doing so simply sets up for guilt and shame and the situation will just escalate. It is how the ego wants to get validated.
Q: How do we avoid conflict?
Hope says that all conflicts come from fearful thoughts. When we get the feeling, we will get what we are holding against ourselves. We can avoid that by trying not to get there. She further reassures that conflict needs to arise for the teaching. When we have a conflicted mind, in return, we experience conflict in our lives.
Our ego will use spiritual concepts to make conflicts with other people. However, we are in a relationship with one another. The whole point is to extend love. When the person is fearful, there is no love but only projections and illusions. When we teach other’s minds, we are using our perceptions of ourselves. We need to recognize that it is just our perception. We will get the clue when we get the feeling effect. Inner conflict makes our bodies vulnerable. Our ego makes illusions to make us feel guilty. Manifestations come from conflicts. However, they will not happen, it is simply our ego making them real. Thus, spiritual concepts are irrelevant when we engage in conflicts. Conflicts with ourselves, affects our relationships. If we are loving right now, no one will get hurt.
Q: How far do you go in having fun and living it up? Is it okay to do drugs, drink alcohol and such activities?
Hope says that we don’t have a choice. Having a choice blinds people of having a function. Our function is to extend love. It is not a concern about what we eat or drink. People take such thought in an egotistical way. What we eat depends on what we think is a healthy diet.
For Hope, she doesn’t have any conflict about eating a pastrami sandwich because she knows food doesn’t have an effect on the body. She adds that food and anything else is magic. Feeling hungry is not possible and is projected outside the mind. What is confusing the mind is a sense of guilt. Feeling hungry, full, sick, hyper are used to get an effect in the illusion. The awareness of the effect of food coalesces to take care of the body. It is a tool of communication.
Q: How does a person make that transformation?
Hope say not to even try to do that. It will seem you have a choice when you don’t have one. It is just the ego talking. It has nothing to do with realizing the truth behind the illusion. It is not about getting a better illusion. When people manifest being spiritual then something hits them rock-bottom, the spirituality is gone completely. They become inconsolable because they only built up an image of spirituality. When things go wrong, they are really gloomy. When they have a dangerous thought, they think of to use their minds to get a better illusion. It is not about that.
So, we need to forget about trying to manifest anything. The manifestation is already working in our favor.
Q: What feelings do you have? How do you go through your day? Do you think about your vibration?
Hope answers, “I am aware of who I am. (H.J., 2019)” She explains that her vibration is all an illusion. It is all about the connection kept to who she is.
She describes it as a déjà vu where past thoughts come out. Scenarios like, “I need to…”, “I have to…”, “I should do…” are played out in the mind. What’s important is if we agree with those thoughts then, we make more manifestations. When we do them, we feel proud. When we don’t, we feel guilty. It is about you agreeing or disagreeing with what the mind tells you.
Q: What about heaven?
Hope explains that heaven has nothing to do with manifestations. A world full of manifestation denies that heaven exists. There is denial because there is death. We can’t conceptualize what heaven is.
There are two things- an awareness of creation and reality created by the mind. When there is confusion, happens, there is a projection imposed between awareness and the mind’s reality of a physical world. The ego will trick us that our projection is the reality. It will make you believe that false reality is better. It is mental imprisonment.
Our only choice is between truth and illusion. We have the choice in making an illusion true or recognize what is true. Some spiritual teachings are about making more for myself. Though it is not bad, it is not all truth, it is all a lie. Parts of it is used as a teaching tool. We, who tune in to Wisdom Dialogues, mean there is something in us making a choice that we want the truth. You don’t want to manifest anymore.
Q: What is truth?
Hope says, “Truth is who you are. (H.J., 2019)”
Truth is an individualized experience. The ego makes a point that denies us, our innocence and what is divine. Let’s those blocks be removed. The most efficient way to the truth is to look at the conflict of the thought. Get the feeling effect of those thoughts. Realize we made it up for ourselves. See what we are holding against ourselves and we will realize they are just thoughts.
Hope reminds us to detach ourselves from the voices. We are not in the illusion. Let those voices just play out and we can be aware of ourselves. When we are lost, ask for help. When we can’t see, ask for help. The goal is to know who we are within it.
When we realize that our projections are just made up, we experience peace. It is an extension of love for ourselves. It is a short time to go back to heaven.
As our mind becomes saner, manifestations follow soot. However, peace happens when manifestations are neutral whenever they pop up.Lorry adds that peace is not thinking whether something is right or wrong.
Hope adds that being in service to yourself is extending love. When we see a pattern of conflict, allow feelings for that. That’s in service to yourself and others. The manifestation is following that thinking. Attacking those thoughts has no effect unless we let it. When we recognize them, we accept full forgiveness as if they didn’t happen.
Accepting forgiveness means projection didn’t happen, it was just a dream and it does not affect us. There is no before. The past is just being projected to give us a guilty self-concept. We don’t have to make the projection real.
There is only truth and illusion. We don’t have a choice on what spiritual concept that comes through us. We only choose between agreeing and disagreeing. When we choose who we are over the illusion, we will definitely be moved.
Q: What if I feel unsafe to trust the wisdom of the person?
Vidir Hallgrimss shares that he always sees a blind spot when something happens with a teacher. He believes it comes from a wound within him. It makes him feel unsafe and distrust himself in the situation. He feels unsafe to trust the wisdom of the person.
Hope believes that’s never safe. It like making illusions true. A person he perceives is projected from his own mind. There is no need to put it over onto them. His experience needs to occur for his learning. He doesn’t need to judge himself for it. If he feels the person got it wrong, he is projecting that. Whether or not he recognizes that he’s projecting it, it’s always going to be for his best interests. Any blinds spots that he perceives is not really there. He’s not actually seeing the person as they are because of those blind spots.
Seeing the blind spot of another will move us but we are seeing our perceptions only. Choosing truth over illusion comes together for our learning. What we do with the illusion or find the truth, we simply need to get the feeling of that. There’s nothing wrong with our choice. Just let it flow.
Q: How do I approach the pain?
Vidir further shares that he senses pain in him and he wants to approach the pain. Something about illusion makes it hard for him to access the pain.
Hope explains that a strong defense from pain is the thought that it is hard. She adds, “It’s also associated with a feeling. So when it seems to you that it’s hard to undo this, that it’s hard to see it, that’s the block. It’s self-doubt. (H.J., 2019)”
(2:11:27 – 2: 11: 57) When we say to ourselves, “I can’t get this,” it is better to laugh. We have no choice about the thoughts that come up in our minds but we have a choice to laugh. When you choose truth, it is laughing. It is laughter on what we thought was real. Then, anything can come and we have an open space for that. What makes it fun is there’s no block.
PLEASE NOTE: This is a very rough transcript of some conversations during the show.
Panelist: Lorry Thiboutot, Bob Shine
Show summary: In this episode of Wisdom Dialogues, Hope Johnson shares her thoughts on a sexual perverted culture, karma and reincarnation and depression. She reminds us that everything is an illusion. The world has no past, nor future. So, recognizing the feelings that arise when we think of our past, no matter how dark, is the start of healing. Seeing everything as a benefit will shift our minds into openness and forgiveness. We are not separated from God nor reality and that’s the awesome truth.
Q: Awareness of sexual perverted culture and children used for sex trafficking and abuse HJ: A sexually perverted culture is within our mind. It is projected from the mind to mind. Sexual perversion has no place in a sane mind. The mind is insane when it is perceiving that. Having a perception of perversion brings darkness to that awareness. No one belongs to a sexually perverted culture. It is projection of the mind.
Follow-up Q: Pedophilia becoming normal and accepted in today’s society. Kids used as sex-object. My child and husband getting paranoid and worried about it.
HJ: Paranoia and worry brings pedophilia up again and again. The worry is a self-belief about society being that way. It is projecting more of the same things. Worry makes you see it more in society. It multiplies in our perception of how society is. Everyone has their own subjective perception. If you are a couple who has paranoia on sex trade and pedophilia, not everyone is like this. Personally, I don’t get worked up about it because this perception not coming from me. How you perceive the world is coming from your own mind but no one shares the same perception. The whole world makes you think you are correct that you separate yourself from reality. But the truth is, you are not separated from reality. It is just a feeling. Paranoia is the fear of losing this image and after that is oblivion. The human’s function is to undo the self-belief that’s causing it.
Nothing is happening. What we fear and worry about is not happening. It is in the imagination only where it is a secret wish to replace a world. What do you do? Do what you are made to do. Doing is automatic. I made a move to do what is necessary to undo guilty self-belief. The ego lead us to thinking that we are separate from reality. So, it brings up suffering to show us there must be a better way. All is a benefit. If I feel sad, the feelings of sadness is my own projection. B: People talk about pedophilia and child molestation. The children who are abused and unhealed from become desensitize and unfeeling to other people’s suffering. So, they end up inflicting to others the same thing. That’s how people believe that.
HJ: There is no history. There is no past. If you believe it happened, you repress the pain and hide it instead. The repressed pain becomes a need to hurt other people. So, the healing is recognizing the truth. Recognizing that nothing happened is by getting the real feeling about it. Recognize what you are projecting and the feeling represented itself in that projection. After recognizing that, the feeling becomes healed. Whatever past is a projection. It is like a circle. Below is the self-belief, then the thought projection and above is the feeling. The feelings, self-belief and thought projection is the cycle that upholds the world. We uphold the world by making this thing true. When a thought arise, there is no emotional charge anymore thru recognition. As long as you have a projection of being a victim, you will keep getting the feeling of being a victim. Looking into that allows things to be undone. But projecting is okay because it will bring awareness. Then, it is a benefit because of the awareness.
People usually feel guilty because they think they screw up. But you never screwed up so you can’t get it wrong. If you keep an eye on your guilty self-belief, the projection will not have power. The projection doesn’t go anywhere unless you believe it. But, you are not screwing up instead, you are learning. No one is touched by illusion. Reality from the illusion is nothing. It is forgotten. Your teaching-learning ground is to go back to sanity and heaven where we are.
B: It is getting in touched with our feelings but the problem is sex abusers are cut off from any feeling. They want to see others abused because they fear they will feel hurt if they don’t.
H: When we have perceptions, we are in a dance in them. What do you do? Have compassion. I have been near predators but I go, “Oh yeah, not with me.” I do not see him that way but only for who he is. I’m making it up if think him that way. B: Some go thru a spiritual experience getting raped. The victim feels a release and love. Then, the perpetrator asks, “Aren’t you afraid?” The woman answers, “No, I understand you,” and feels compassion for him in the end. So, the key is am I feeling?
H: Anyone is asking you to show them their innocence. An insane mind convince people to feel guilty but people are unaware of it. It takes conscious effort to avoid the guilty feelings.
B: That’s the story of Frankenstein. Everyone thinks he is a monster so, he is violent towards the townspeople until he meets a girl who doesn’t know he is a monster. Because the girl doesn’t see him as a monster, he is kind and gentle to her. Then, Frankenstein sees and meets a blind man who invites him to have a smoke. He feels welcomed and so, he shows his good side to him. The innocence of these persons are projected into Frankenstein.
H: Good illustration!
Thomas Garrett (listener): I am from Colorado. I want to say that owning feelings interrupts the story. Owning feelings mean I am here and nobody is out there. To deny feelings is like going to hell.
H: Denying feelings is like going to hell.
TG: I learned to dive into the feeling. It is me in the moment. It feels like I am not in the world. My feelings are mine.
H: Agree, you are not in the world. I feel excited for you.
Q: How to compassionately tell someone if they are abuse because they wanted it.
H: You don’t teach anyone. You don’t hear your teaching you own mind but you are always teaching the mind. The guidance in the present moment will tell you where to go. When you feel compassionate, you know exactly what you will say. You will get their reaction on what you are on. The ego will pound some concept making you believe it is true. But, when you show compassion, it will reflect and others will see your compassion. When you have compassion, you will know what to say and share. The imagination projects past and future but the world has no past and future.
Awareness makes healing possible. When you follow the ego guidance, you are afraid that you are unworthy of reality and you are subject to death but it is because you want to hide from reality. The perception’s purpose is to undo what’s causing that.
Q: How can you purify your karma and reincarnation?
H: These concepts are meaningless. Karma and reincarnation don’t mean anything. What matters is what you are using it for. There is nothing to purify karma because there is no karma nor reincarnation. In this life, there is not true or false, right or wrong. All of that is just an illusion.
B: It just perpetuates death.
H: Yes, purifying karma is synonymous to guilty self – belief, the belief in separation from reality. Believing there is karma to purify upholds the belief of that concept. It only matters when it is only functional. If not, it perpetuates guilty self-belief. Believing in karma signifies there is a past that needs to bring down. No one is on different levels. To believe that then you are not seeing them as they are. You just want to see them that way. Why do want that? Because feelings arise based on the self-belief. And you start projecting that to people. All are just symbols.
B: Some people believe that karma means you sow what you reap, you reap what you sow. When you reap negativity, you reap things like pedophilia and sex trafficking….
H: The question is what is it being used for? You always have a choice. You can always make a choice. It is inside work. Just say, “Thank you,” when someone is offensive.
B: Christ level is the true level of everyone. Christ saw everyone in Christ level.
H: You don’t have to act like a teacher on anyone. There is no need to impart to anyone.
B: We are always students.
H: When you think you are teaching others, you are actually teaching yourself what you say.
L: Hope, at first did you tell yourself, “Nothing’s happened, nothing’s happened,”
H: I don’t have any recollection of how I did it but I find myself say, “I am making this up”. This is a benefit, projecting anger, this a benefit.
L: I can feel some warmth in my body. Your words now are resonating deeper.
H: You are getting the experience. When it sinks deeper, it is easier for you to open up.
Q: I cringe all the time when I encounter a thought, song or memory. I feel like my skin is sensitive.
H: It’s a benefit. Look at it as a benefit rather than as a problem. When you cry about it, it is okay. Crying is healing and you are not overlaying it. Step backing to look at what’s going on within you is a benefit. It brings you back. You just need to say, “Thank you,” about it.
H: Take it the way they will take it. Fear prevents you from getting it. Believing they are dangerous is a defensive means because you just don’t want to get it.
Q: feel concerned
H: Only you can give innocence thru compassion. You want to perceive people so they become violent. It is all benefit. Q: Your children are unschooled gamers. Do you have internet regulation at home? H: No regulation because I don’t see a need for myself to be regulated. If I start regulating myself, it will be projected to others to be regulated. Q: 11 – 12 ages are ages of curiosity so, they explore pornography… H: There is nothing to do about it. Believing that I need to control them means their innocence is lost. Whatever it is, allow it to play out at the age of 11 -12. I have no problem with computer use/ internet. If you show a non-projected connection to your children, they open up to you. There is no judgement or advice to be a good person. Our function is to reveal innocence. Just be honest. It takes time. It is a benefit. B: But the problem is, innocence is rare because most grow up feeling guilty of how they perceive sex. Sexual milieu is a sin according to Catholicism. Sex, when it is the most beautiful, the source of producing a next generation… H: Bob, I need to stop you there for a while because sex is nothing. It is equal to anything. It is an illusion to say it is beautiful and so on. It is nothing. It doesn’t matter like anything else. Making it matter, makes the illusion stronger. B: So, it is seeing everything as neutral H: Yes, everything is neutral. To give something meaning upholds the whole world. We need to undo the illusion and not make it true. T: I support the idea that there’s no world out there. I want to call it as remembering innocence rather than revealing innocence. It feels like waking up and seeing myself as a child again. H: It is protecting innocence. In the world, innocence is being attacked. In the world-view, innocence is lost. But within the self, it is not gone. Q: Opening myself up to HJ’s wisdom, depression gets in. H: It is the doing of the ego. What purpose does it have? It is a common ego thinking. The world has a purpose. We need to undo guilty self-belief. First believe, this is a benefit. Then, depression is going to unravel faster and faster. When you look at it as a benefit, you are telling the ego, “I am not going to control you anymore,” ego will be sad. We swore with ego to uphold the world. It is feeling sad if we do not listen to it. Yulia Shevchenko (listener): My topic is my kids. I can’t communicate with people on my view about there is no problem and no money. I get caught up about it. I don’t know how to let them see my view. H: There is no need to know how. When you make thought processes meaningful, it will make you confused. Y: How do you talk to people about it? H: You don’t talk to anyone. There is no ‘how’ on it. You just keep listening. Y: I don’t not know about listening H: You want to keep the illusion real. All is meaningless. But making it meaningful, you believe something bad is going to happen and there is fear about it. Y: So, it is the same with everything else? H: yes. B: Trying to see how is just another mind prism. You just need to say, “Thank you for sharing that,” then dismiss. Y: So, I do not have a choice. H: Agreeing or disagreeing is the same thing. They persist because you are interested in it. Y: My kids don’t believe in the conversation. But we have this conversation about it. I try to argue and it all becomes twisted. Can you explain why not to do anything? H: Agreeing and disagreeing just makes the illusion more true. Hearing something is impossible. It is like taking you to a mind game and making the concept solidified. These concepts are validated by someone else. Y: I feel pressured having to motivate them. I just don’t know what to do. H: Stay like that. Y: They tell me I am smart and capable. They can’t believe… H: You don’t need to convince. Coming back to it is a benefit. Allowing the feeling to rise in you that reflects who you are. That’s how it gets resolved. What’s motivating those thoughts? Mind is enslaved by thought processes. The perception of not getting it right is a benefit. Think of it as a benefit. It is just an illusion and it is going to make you feel guilty. But it is always a benefit. Y: I want to communicate this to my boyfriend but he doesn’t get it. H: You are getting a validation. Go back to what’s motivating this. Why is there a want for validation? Y: There is this feeling of “ugh!” H: That is also benefit. A lot of thoughts says that it is true. Just say, “Thank you.” There’s no need for a reason. Y: So, I just make a story. H: No need to explain. But thoughts in the mind says there is a need to explain. We’re all in our own mind. We are seeing our own projection. Making them say that if they don’t get it. It is to get this feeling. But no need to do that. T: Extend the innocence is a nice message. H: I appreciate it. If it resonates, change it as extend the innocence. Protect the innocence by protecting that space. Q: reason manifest H: We don’t want to know why because we don’t want to see the world destroyed. We justify those things by worldly things. By following ego guidance, we feel worse. The more you know yourself, the more it is painful. Because you want to go home by making a different decision. Q: Not feel guilty to separate from God but feel guilt out of other worldly ideas
H: It is a distraction. We are not separated from God is because we are not guilty of anything. If you are separated from God, the assumption makes you think you are deserving of death. The guilt is there from the self-belief that you separated and made an illusion. There is intense guilt because you can’t handle it.
On this episode of Wisdom Dialogues, Hope Johnson talks about how the ego controls our mind, choices, and beliefs. Once we allow ego to determine our actions, we get feelings of guilt, fear, and anxiety.
The ego tells us to choose which makes us fearful because it is normal, it is what other people do. However, the ego only gives us illusions, tricks, defenses which make us become vulnerable. Accepting these will only make us run away. We don’t get to the bottom of what is truth. Like in eating, when we overeat, it is the ego telling us that consuming a lot is safe for the body.
However, it can be a defense mechanism of something that makes us feel trapped. Rather than recognizing or accepting the situation that makes us feel trapped, we eat. It also goes without saying that when we believe in obesity, being skinny or healthy, it the ego telling us to be prejudiced – to see that body size matters. So, we push ourselves into a body that we think is healthy for us. However, when we truly listen to our body, it will tell us what it wants.
We need to accept truth, rather than depend on illusions. How long it takes to find truth doesn’t even matter as long as we lean to it. When making a choice, return to the feeling, see it. It is important to recognize that in our minds, we have a spirit guide. It is a guide that comforts and tells us we are beyond the world. The spirit makes us feel relieved. We need to choose what makes us feel less guilt and fear. To be open to the spirit, we become happy.
Q: Is free will not real?
Hope Johnson (HJ) explains that we don’t have a choice in a dream state. The mind projects illusions. Through these projections, choices are made. What we choose, gives truth to the illusion. But nothing happened before and in the present, it is just the mind playing out. Thoughts are worldly thoughts to uphold the illusion to make it true. It is up to the person to recognize that nothing happened. When we separate from reality, we become vulnerable. It is up to you to recognize that nothing happened. Agreeing with illusory thoughts makes someone feels upset. When you are afraid, we believe we deserve punishment that is death, or a certain death. When we recognize there is no free-will but freedom of choice, we are happier. One most dangerous thought in choosing ego is feeling taken advantage of. The choice is looking at the thought with a good guide.
Follow-up Q: Separation from love
Love = eternal life. The belief of separation is only death which is a punishment from God. But this is just a dream of separation. We are not willing to let go of the dream because of fear. Humanity has an apparent existence because of the belief in separation. Willing to make a choice shortens the illusion.
Q: What if we can feel other’s feelings and why?
There is no other. Feeling other people’s feelings are our interpretations of energy. Dancing with others is dancing with ourselves. The perception of feeling other people is our projection, interpreting thru our mistaken self-belief. It is feeling our own reaction.
HJ shares an example from a friend a week ago. The friend asked about the feeling of prosecuted. HJ answers that we feel prosecuted because of the projected thoughts of prosecution. What we can do about it is to feel compassion. When we have compassion for ourselves, we show or demonstrate compassion. Compassion is a gift that is received. Let’s not look to the illusion for any proof because it doesn’t have. Bob H. (BH) reacts to this by saying that laughter is a creative tension, also crying.
When we laugh or cry, we release energy which keeps ultimate sanity otherwise we go crazy. HJ answers that there is no wrong nor mistake. It is noticing what choice to make that is the truth. When we have self-guilt, it is important to allow forgiveness. Forgiveness is accepting that nothing happened. When this happens, we become uplifted because we can’t be guilty or accountable.
Q: Wisdom on Contentment
HJ reassures that we are always being guided so don’t worry about being trapped. There are two guides in the mind, the ego, and the spirit. The ego is protective. It automatically creates a defense. On the other hand, the spirit is a comforting, tiny voice, telling us we are beyond the world. It is a kind of comfort that offers us the choice that we are beyond the world. So, we need to choose to lean toward the spirit guide. However, the ego makes us feel guilty and fearful. It tells us we are making a mistake. However, everything is a benefit, nothing is wrong.
When we listen to the ego guide, it can lead to a dangerous thought that is – we feel taken advantaged or we are taking advantage of something. It is dangerous because it feels worse and worse and worse as it prolongs. Remember, we are not something that can’t be trapped like that. We need to make the choice – which thought feels better? We don’t have to go to the fearful one. When we choose fear, we choose the ego thought. Making a choice is agreeing with the thought or feeling relieved following a thought. The ego will say, “You’re going crazy if everything is okay”. When others oppose, say, “Okay, thank you”.
Then, Lorry (L) shares a family reunion she attended where her son reacted to a picture of his daughter wearing a bikini. The picture was only shared exclusively to the group chat but her son thinks her daughter is almost wearing nothing. It is dangerous with all the crazy-minded people out there who victimize children. L says she blew up on her son’s reaction. It was an automatic defense. It was listening to the ego.
HJ answers that the ego makes everything a big deal. It projects that everything is a big deal. When we recognize that we follow our ego’s projections, it is just learning rather than something really happening. So, don’t guilt yourself.
BH adds that when we feel upset, discouraged or fearful, we need to dismiss it and go on. Else, we get embroiled and tangled into this trap for a long time. We need to move on and let the negativity pass. Rather than dwelling, we just have to let go.
HJ replies back and says we need to follow the guidance of spirit or ego. What we think is happening is just an illusion. We are just making a choice. When we separate from the illusion, we are stepping back from it. We are not trying to let go but we are choosing between the spirit or the ego. The question is when are you willing to take it?
Q: Being conscious about this, made fear come up
HJ says that recognizing the fear, recognize is ok. It is a breakthrough.
Q: How long does it take to find truth from illusion?
Time itself is an illusion. There is no time. The illusion of time is it’s long or short. It doesn’t matter how long it lasts. As long as we are willing to choose the truth, it doesn’t matter how long we find it. Heal the guilty – self. In reality, there is no beginning and end of time. It is just a projection.
Q: Does food not have an effect on the body?
Ego will tell us to eat anything because food doesn’t affect the body. Then, it gives us a sense of guilt which makes the illusion look true. Ego will use this information to serve us as a body. The ego’s job is to use this thought as a mind trick to seem that food has an effect.
We need to keep denying the evidence. Watch it play out. The choice is who am I in this? When you overeat, you need to ask yourself, “Who am I in this?” It is all projected from the mind. Look at what is least fearful. Choose which guide you need to follow.
BH responds that you are the master of the body.
HJ explains that there two levels – play on the surface and letting things play out. The projections and illusions are play on the surface. What is deeper is allowing things to play out.
Q: Beginner tips on dream state…
Start to notice any kind of clenching and constriction in your body. Be watchful on what you’re body does because it means you are nervous. When your body tenses, it is you choosing the voice of the ego, listening to the negative thoughts of the ego. Use essential oils too because the aroma will lift the thoughts.
Q: Giving the feeling effect. Is there a “done?”
Be patient but don’t wait. Thinking if it ever changes is projected from a feeling. Get the feeling –affect from that. There’s a lot of defenses in the mind. Every thought is projected from feelings. Go back to the feeling. “It’s occurring because I want it to happen” – step back from that. You are before a projection. Step back from it because you are not it.
Q: Wisdom On Eating
Eating is a distraction. It is always just being alert. Noticing that you are eating, eating, eating, the ego makes it a guilty action. Watching it play out will make you see what you are covering up. Overeating is not coming out of joy. It is a tricky joy. You know you are tricking yourself when you get a shitty feeling afterward.
We become a food-victim when we cover up a feeling of being trapped. Running away from that trapped feeling, we consume food to fill the void. Recognize what traps you. Acknowledge what is going on.
Don’t wait. Time is now.
The ego is using your dominion to make yourself the victim. The illusion isn’t true. Denying is laughing about it. I am not doing anything.
Q: Wisdom on obesity
The size of the body doesn’t matter. How do you feel about it? That’s what it comes to. Names are projection. What is more important is, “How do you feel?” That just makes prejudice arise when seeing the size. The body isn’t real. Let’s other deal with their own salvation as you deal with your own salvation. Obesity is symbolic of guilt so is a healthy body. The ego will tell us that we are obese.
It makes us feel guilty about it so, we work to have a skinnier body. It is also the same in keeping a healthy body. We pressure ourselves in having a healthy body because we feel guilty when it fattens. These are meaningless thoughts. Your mind knows what body you want.
As you release tension, you will have an easier time to be that. Let it flow freely. It is the journey, not the destination that is important. There’s really no destination in the illusion. Undo the guilt in the illusion.